In your comment on 27 October you drew attention to some remarks made by our new ICE president about civil engineers complaining of lack of status.
When I joined the Local Government Service (some years before the great disorganisation), my chief rejoiced in the noble title of County Surveyor and Bridgemaster.
Regrettably, most chief engineers have allowed themselves to be called 'head' of this and that, and their senior staff are mere 'managers'.
Furthermore, their letter headings in many cases give no indication of their academic and professional qualifications.
Local government used to have a high reputation as a major training ground for our profession and I urge members to 'consider their position'.
John Oliver (M), 9 Campion Close, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire HP20 1QG