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Fellowship must be earned

Phil Flanagan (NCE 21/28 August) and others have suggested that ICE members should automatically become Fellows after, say, 25 years, and that this should be marked by a ceremony.

I really am pleased that there is such interest in becoming an ICE Fellow. But if something is to have value, then it cannot be given away.

Fellowship is the highest grade in the Institution and is awarded to those who have achieved a position of responsibility.

I have no doubt that many members of 25 years' standing will be able to demonstrate this, and I would encourage them to apply to become a Fellow (the form is available at

If successful, you will be invited to a Presentation Ceremony here at the Institution to receive your Fellow's Certificate from the President. I have seen for myself the genuine delight of many new Fellows in their achievement.

By the way, the President also sends a personally signed certificate to recognise all members of 40 years' standing.

DAVID ORR, President, Institution of Civil Engineers, 1 Great George Street, London SW1P 3AA

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