I would like to comment on the letter by A Oliver and N Hoskins (NCE 9 September) and their confusion over the core objectives.
As a reviewer and supervising civil engineer, my understanding of the rules in ICE101 and ICE2001 is that:
l A training agreement begun before the end of 1999 can be completed and a Completion Certificate issued by fulfilling the old core objectives in ICE180. The Completion Certificate allows someone to move forward to the next stage of the review; however
l From 1 January 2000, it is necessary for candidates at the membership professional review, MPR, to demonstrate to the reviewers that they have met the requirements of the new objectives in ICE2011.
In my view, a simple and practical means of achieving this is to continue with the old objectives in ICE180, but to complete them to a higher level of attainment and attach an addendum for additional items. This implies that more time will be required to achieve the necessary level of attainment and additional items. I suspect that a significant number of graduate member engineers will be affected by the rule changes.
It remains to be seen how the new rules will affect the Institution and its membership profile.
Richard Newell (M), firstname.lastname@example.org